PAPA ROACH INTERVIEW WITH JACOBY SHADDIX
November 2007
Jacoby Shaddix from PAPA ROACH was nice enough
to take the time to do a phone interview with me. It was
prior to his show that I went to at Lupo’s. I have
to say it was one of the best real rock shows that I have seen
in ages. His energy amazified me. He is that awesome
that I invented a new word for him. Seriously, though he
has the whole package and maintains it through the entire show. His
voice is just so crisp and haunting. I love seeing a show
where everyone on stage is having fun. The world has enough
cranky and pretentious rockers who walk around with pictures of
themselves on their shirts that seeing a band like PAPA ROACH is,
dare I say, a breathe of fresh air. Yes, there was NO stinking
going on, on that stage. If you have not seen PAPA ROACH
live yet, what are you waiting for?
LL: Your sound has evolved over the years
what has influenced you to change it?
Jacoby: Pretty much just our lives, what
we have been listening to as far as music goes is always changing
and I think it is just natural for this band to evolve and try
new things.
LL: Who is your favorite present day artist?
Jacoby: My favorite present day artist,
man..
LL: That’s a tough one?
Jacoby: Yeah, my favorite present day artist
is Social Distortion. Are you talking about music or just
art?
LL: Whatever you would like to answer.
Jacoby: I would say Social Distortion is
my favorite band.
LL: What is your favorite song to perform
live and why?
Jacoby: My favorite song to perform live? Well,
I love all of our songs but if I had to pick one I would say FOREVER
is probably my favorite song to perform live because just they
way that the song is so dynamic it brings something new to our
set. It has those peaks and valleys that I think really work
in a live setting and especially the vocals are very dynamic and
I get to explore my range which is cool. Plus it is such
a kick ass song!
LL: It is my favorite song, too. Actually,
it works right into my next question which is what inspired you
to write FOREVER?
Jacoby: FOREVER, we wrote the chorus of
the song before we went to the Paramour to finish writing the record
and it was just like a melody that I wrote over a drum beat and
then our bass player, Tobin, was working on it and he said cool
I got the riff for it and the band was working on the song while
we were living at the Paramour and I was having a little bit of
writers block and I went down to the gravesite. There is
a lady named Daisy that is buried on the property of the Paramour
and I meditated down there and I came out of my meditation and
started to writing and I just wrote like five pages, you know,
just like a stream of consciousness. I just put the pen to
the paper and just wrote. You know I was all excited about
it and I just went back to the house and the guys were working
on the verse for FOREVER and it was just had a really kind of moody,
eerie, dark sexy vibe to it. It was funny because the first lyrics
that I wrote coming out of my meditation was in the brightest hour
of my darkest day, which is the first lyrics of the song and it
just all seemed to work and those lyrics just came from that. That
song is pretty much about booze, drugs and women and the crazy
shit that they make you do and the crazy things that it does to
you if you let it get a hold of you. It the end, in all three
relationships it’s like something that either you are going
to deal with forever or you are going to try to not do forever
or you are going to do forever.
LL: Well, that makes sense. Why did
you choose to record in the Paramour Mansion?
Jacoby: At first, it was just time to shake
things up and try something new and we figured going somewhere
and just eating, breathing and living music for an extended period
of time and not being disturbed by the outside world was just the
best thing for the band to do and as it turns out it was. It
was just a really inspiring time for the band and really helped
us push our sound in a new direction, by which no means are we
not proud of what we’ve done in our past but I think
evolution is the key to keeping us excited about what we do, you
know?
LL: Of Course!
Jacoby: You know it’s like sex. If
you do the same thing with the same routine with the same repetition
over and over with the same person and the same deal it’s
going to get old. You have to switch it up and try new things
and liven it up. That’s what we have to do with our
music.
LL: How excited are you that your music
is used in the WWE?
Jacoby: Oh, it’s cool! The promo
people called up our management at the label and said that they
heard the song, TO BE LOVED, on the radio and they wanted to use
it on Monday Night Raw and for us that’s huge because that
gets our music out to so many people. It’s such a huge
show and you know for me growing up I was a huge fan. I was
a total wrestle maniac when I was a kid. I was into Hulkamania. I
was all into it and I think that extreme sports and rock n’ roll
really go hand in hand so it was an opportunity that we couldn’t
pass up.
LL: Of course, not! Now, do you get
to wrestle any of the stars? Have they allowed you to get
into the ring?
Jacoby: Oh, hell no! You’ll
never get me in the ring.
LL: Yeah, it looks like it hurts.
Jacoby: Ah, yeah!
LL: I don’t care how padded anything
is.
Jacoby: I watched a movie about wrestling
called, Beyond the Mat, and it’s a movie about wrestlers
and what goes on behind the scenes and that’s an intense
sport. I know it’s sports entertainment but those guys
really brutalize themselves for the fans, it’s crazy.
LL: Oh, yeah. Speaking of that, what
member has the most scars?
Jacoby: That would have to be me or my drummer. My
knuckles are all bashed in, my forehead has cuts all over it, my
arms have..ah..I was crazy for a while. I was pretty insane
for a few years. Very self-destructive, actually.
LL: That’s not good.
Jacoby: Yeah, I was trying to send myself
to the hospital on a nightly basis. I really went through
a cycle of trying to destroy myself and it was pretty sick.
LL: Well, you look great now.
Jacoby: Yeah, I got healthy. I got
clean and sober and just kind of switched up the path of my life
and really fell in love with my music again and really wanted to
take care of myself and really be a more positive force in this
world. That’s the path I am walking
now and it feels so good.
LL: That’s so good. Do you enjoy
doing the SCARRED show on MTV?
Jacoby: Oh, I have a blast doing that show. You
know the MTV production people approached me about doing this show. They
came to me about a couple of other shows but they really were not
up my alley but this one was just like ok, cool, extreme sports,
kids fucking themselves up and skateboards. I’ve skated
for years of my life and I still skateboard occasionally myself. I
think it just goes hand in hand and for the opportunity for me
to step out and try something new and have fun on camera was just
a cool experience. I went and did it and it just worked. My
one rule was that if I’m not having fun then I’m not
going to do it and we went and shot the pilot and I had a blast
and I really liked the people that I was working with. It’s
definitely something that I don’t regret doing.
LL: I love it when the people on the show
admit how stupid they are trying things.
Jacoby: Oh yeah, I’m like, you are
going to try and jump a 15 foot gap on rollerblades. You’re
an idiot but that’s the whole thing about being passionate
about a sport or being in a band, you always take everything to
the extreme.
LL: What clip on that show really turned
your stomach?
Jacoby: There is this one kid named Fat
Tony and he did this thing, a really basic simple trick on
a handrail on his bike, and he came down and ended up just smashing
his face on the concrete just so fast. His teeth were busted
out and his whole nose was bloody and it was just disgusting.
LL: That sounds like a good time!
Jacoby: Yeah, sounds lovely!
LL: Do you have a secret formula for writing
hit songs?
Jacoby: I don’t know. A little
bit of tragedy, a lot of passion, good melodies, honesty and conviction. That
is about all it comes down to and it’s not like we set out
to write hit songs it’s just over the course of the years we
just try to write the best music that we can. It has to get
us off because if we can get off I’m sure our fans will,
too.
LL: Well, you guys do a great job.
Jacoby: Well, thank you.
LL: Can you tell me a bit about your fan
community, RIOT.
Jacoby: Oh, yeah, P Roach RIOT, which reminds
me I have to go blog on that damn thing. I have not blogged
on that thing in a couple of weeks. I’ve been lazy. I’ve
been home for awhile though. It’s an on-line community
that we have where we can answer fan questions and we post what
has been going on with us on the road. We post photos and
have some video stuff that is going to be added into the mix here
and I am really excited about it because in between touring we
are going to start making another record and it’s going to
be a really good way to stay in touch with our fans while we are
off the road. It’s a cool place where you can go and
talk all you want about PAPA ROACH and also meet some kids from
across the world because there are kids from the UK, Germany, South
America, America and Canada on our board. It’s definitely
bringing a lot of different people together and it’s just
our own little world. We love to take care of our people
and connect with them through it.
LL: It’s great. It is very important
that musicians do that for their fans.
Jacoby: Oh yeah, most definitely, it’s
2008 and in the music business the way that you keep in touch with
your fans is changing so rapidly due to the internet and it’s
an opportunity to provide information right off the bat and that’s
what kids feed off of right now and I think it’s a great
opportunity to keep kids dialed into what we do. They want
it all and they want it now!
LL: Yep, they don’t want to wait for
anything nowadays. What are your future plans?
Jacoby: We are about to head back
on tour with Hinder for a couple of weeks and then we are breaking
off and doing our own headlining for a few weeks with 10 Years
and a band called Meriwether. We are rolling through, I think
LUPO’S in your town.
LL: Yes, and of course I will see you there.
Jacoby: Yes, we have that headlining date
and we will annihilate that and then at the end of the tour we
will go home on Dec 9th or 10th and we are going to take the holidays
off. When January rolls around we are going to go and move
back down to the Paramour and live there for about a month and
a half and start writing our record and then we bought a recording
studio in Sacramento and we are going to move everything back up
north and record our record at our own studio which will be really
cool and then we will be back on the road next summer.
LL: Great, I guess that’s it. I
won’t keep you because I know you have another interview
to do.
Jacoby: My little boy got some webs caught
on him with a little spider and he’s freaking out.
LL: I don’t like bugs either, so I
am with him.
Jacoby: We like insects not bugs.
LL: That’s right, your name.
Jacoby: That’s right, baby!
LL: I don’t want to visit any
roaches.
Jacoby: I had a roach collection for awhile.
LL: Oh, did you. Were they alive or
dead?
Jacoby: Live cockroaches.
LL: Oh, yuck!
Jacoby: I had them in an aquarium and it
was pretty crazy.
LL: I have hamsters and a chinchilla.
Jacoby: Yeah, disgusting I know. That’s
us boys. That’s who we are.
LL: Oh yeah, all you guys! Well, thank
you for taking the time to talk to me.
Jacoby: OK, cool, you have a great day and
I will see you when I see you.